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Post by Cibryll on Feb 8, 2022 6:53:08 GMT -2
Okay, so here's where we can discuss the elements within the Endania universe. Complete with weaknesses, strengths, and whatnot. And of course the Abilities that are available. This may take a while, haha. "None" is the starting element of all characters, and all characters start off as "Civilians", here, so. Brings back memories, haha. I'm thinking we should have exactly twenty-five elements (counting "None" as an unofficial twenty-sixth element since it would be the absence of an element this time around). No less, no more. So far, we have these elements as confirmed. "None" is NOT counted as an element. - Air
- Earth
- Fire
- Water
- Æther
- Flow
I repeat, "None" is not counted as an element. This is the original post, before the edit on 18 February 2022. My suggestions for the elements are: - Air
- Earth
- Water
- Fire
- Æther
- Darkness
- Light
- Ice
- Thunder
- Summon (includes Animal or Beast or whatev)
- Sound
- Crystal (Gem, Crystal; should probably be weak to Earth or something.)
- Chemical (and it's element #13! NOOOOO~! Stuff like poison, acid, and such.)
- Mind (Illusion, Psychic, Magic/Mana, Dream, maybe a few other old elements I forgot.)
- Draw (draining HP, SMP or MP from foes.)
- Anomaly (the "random element"; I did want to suggest "Oil", but that can just fall under "Fire".)
- Spatial
- Temporal
- Spectral (too spooky for me, but maybe include Shadow as well?)
- Celestial (the sun and stars and the moons)
- Nature
- Code (or Data, haha.)
- Mend (the healing element.)
- Blast (powerful but costly; maybe named Explosion again)
- Ultima (the ultimate element!)
- (None)
Any thoughts? (Okay I know I'm posting this while the forum's in Maintenance Mode, but rather post stuff ahead of time than forget, right? ) Any thoughts are welcome, haha.
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Post by After on Feb 11, 2022 12:07:04 GMT -2
Although I love the concept of Draw a lot, I feel like it'll be a bit... weird/difficult to have as an element of its own. I feel like Draw and Mend could go hand in hand since they have similar vibes and would likely complement each other.
Does Spectral include Chthonic?
Otherwise I'm gonna assume that some of the above are going to have other old Serenthan elements folded into them?
I'm curious how Spatial is going to work - it'd be really cool if it had perception-distorting abilities, like making a certain distance feel longer/shorter (e.g. you're walking to the store that's 30 minutes away but you contract the length so it only feels like it's 5 minutes or something). Although obviously I have absolutely no idea how the balance in this game works sooooo
Does Celestial include Gravity?
If Summon includes Beast, what about Nature? Is it just plants (and fungi)?
How different will Water and Ice be?
What about Metal? Is it a subset of Earth? If it is, shouldn't Ice be a subset of Water?
Does Chemical include Atom and/or Antimatter?
If Spectral includes Shadow, what happens to Darkness?
I realise this is probably too many questions lol But I am just curious
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 11, 2022 15:30:46 GMT -2
Although I love the concept of Draw a lot, I feel like it'll be a bit... weird/difficult to have as an element of its own. I feel like Draw and Mend could go hand in hand since they have similar vibes and would likely complement each other. Hm, that does seem like an interesting idea. Does Spectral include Chthonic? I believe Chthonic ought to fall under "Darkness" here. Otherwise I'm gonna assume that some of the above are going to have other old Serenthan elements folded into them? All sorts of elements were mixed in, from Dragon Riders to the Serenth galaxy's elements. :3 I'm curious how Spatial is going to work - it'd be really cool if it had perception-distorting abilities, like making a certain distance feel longer/shorter (e.g. you're walking to the store that's 30 minutes away but you contract the length so it only feels like it's 5 minutes or something). Although obviously I have absolutely no idea how the balance in this game works sooooo Spatial is just a fancy name for "Space" just like Temporal is a fancy name for "Time", haha. I'm thinking about having Gravity fall under Spatial. I mean. Space has like zero gravity, for one thing. If Summon includes Beast, what about Nature? Is it just plants (and fungi)? The Summon element is from the Dragon Riders thing and it was one of the Bloom puppet's favourite elements. Flower dragon :3 Right now, I think of Nature as the Endanian Chronicles' version of the Grass-type. How different will Water and Ice be? For one thing, Water might make a character wet and combined with a Thunder-elemental attack… ouch. Water is also a healing element, though Mend would be more effective than Water (or Light). Ice freezes solid instead. Or it can be used to make a slippery ice-skating rink or something. (Mundane, yes. Awesome? YES. Unless your enemy can ice-skate with ease.) What about Metal? Is it a subset of Earth? If it is, shouldn't Ice be a subset of Water? I forgot about Metal. I mean. Heavy Metal, that could easily fall under Sound, haha. But the actual metals like gold, silver, bronze, platinum, and whatnot… perhaps a Metal element could be added, with Draw/Mend being fused into an element. Does Chemical include Atom and/or Antimatter? I don't see why not. Though, Antimatter would (as a Pokémon reference) probably fall under Spectral (Giratina being a Ghost/Dragon-type). If Spectral includes Shadow, what happens to Darkness? Several Ghost-type moves have "Shadow" in their name, hence why Shadow is a subset of Spectral here. I realise this is probably too many questions lol But I am just curious And curiosity will bring about a better RP, I'd say. :3 * gets eaten by a meteor shark * Okay I think meteors should fall under Spatial too T_T
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 11, 2022 15:31:50 GMT -2
Also, "æther" is exactly five characters (the combined "ae" being one character). So now no 5 th Elementals can complain about the number of characters
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Post by After on Feb 12, 2022 1:50:40 GMT -2
Splitting quoted posts on Proboards is a lot harder than I remember it being. So because I'm instead I'll just respond to things in sequential order. If Mend and Draw are merged, what do they become? Drend? Maw? Drednaw? Energy? Mysticism? Darkness including Chthonic sounds like a good idea! I suppose then all the Shadow stuff being relegated to Spectral makes a bit more sense, if Darkness means dark in the figurative sense and not the literal sense. I assume things like necromancy, blood magic and all that jazz are probably under Darkness too then? Space doesn't have zero gravity! Actually, there's gravity almost everywhere in the universe, because anything that has mass will have a gravitational field around it. The idea of Zero-G/weighlessness just refers to the fact that you are either in a point of space where the gravity of many celestial bodies cancels out (all the planets pulling you in their own direction makes you just float in the middle) OR that the effects of gravity are so small that anything you feel is negligible. But the gravity is still there nonetheless! (sorry for the nerding out ahaha) But having gravity be related to Space would be cool indeed. If Summon includes Beast, will it still include the bestial transformation things (if I'm remembering them correctly)? Like growing horns or claws or wings? If Water and Ice are separate, what about Vapour? What about temperature in general? What about other liquids? I know you mentioned Oil is going under Anomaly or Fire. Metal being a subset of Earth would be pretty cool but I can see why you'd make it an element of its own. Spectral having Antimatter makes sense in a way, if ghosts aren't made of real matter then they're probably their own weird thing And curiosity will bring about a better RP, I'd say. :3 * gets eaten by a meteor shark * Okay I think meteors should fall under Spatial too T_T uwu I am glad my inane questions are helping. Meteor should probably be under Celestial, no? Since meteors are also celestial bodies. Also, "æther" is exactly five characters (the combined "ae" being one character). So now no 5 th Elementals can complain about the number of characters Ahahaha :3 *proceeds to never touch 5th elementals ever again*
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 12, 2022 7:15:05 GMT -2
Splitting quoted posts on Proboards is a lot harder than I remember it being. So because I'm instead I'll just respond to things in sequential order. Alright. If you click on "Quote", you get redirected to a page with the full post editor thing, and at the bottom of the text box where the quote appears in, there's a "Preview" and a "BBCode". I'm using the latter here; makes it much easier for me to split quotes. :3 If Mend and Draw are merged, what do they become? Drend? Maw? Drednaw? Energy? Mysticism? Good question, that. Right now, I'm thinking "Flow" (as in, "alter the flow of the life, the energy, and the mana within a person"), but that's up for discussion. Darkness including Chthonic sounds like a good idea! I suppose then all the Shadow stuff being relegated to Spectral makes a bit more sense, if Darkness means dark in the figurative sense and not the literal sense. I assume things like necromancy, blood magic and all that jazz are probably under Darkness too then? Yeah, necromancy would fall under Darkness. Blood magic, probably as well, if it doesn't fall under Flow (or Chemical - some monsters' blood might be chemicals instead of the usual blood, haha). Space doesn't have zero gravity! Actually, there's gravity almost everywhere in the universe, because anything that has mass will have a gravitational field around it. The idea of Zero-G/weighlessness just refers to the fact that you are either in a point of space where the gravity of many celestial bodies cancels out (all the planets pulling you in their own direction makes you just float in the middle) OR that the effects of gravity are so small that anything you feel is negligible. But the gravity is still there nonetheless! (sorry for the nerding out ahaha) But having gravity be related to Space would be cool indeed. Well, learning something new everyday is fun, so thank you! Alright, then Gravity will be related to Spatial. If Summon includes Beast, will it still include the bestial transformation things (if I'm remembering them correctly)? Like growing horns or claws or wings? … that's brilliant. Transforming into beasts will fall under Summon, then. If Water and Ice are separate, what about Vapour? What about temperature in general? What about other liquids? I know you mentioned Oil is going under Anomaly or Fire. Most liquids would fall under Water, probably? Mud would probably be Earth, though. Liquid chemicals and poisons, Chemical. Oil falls under Fire because it's flammable, I guess? Vapour… maybe Air? Metal being a subset of Earth would be pretty cool but I can see why you'd make it an element of its own. Yeah, it's pretty heavy. Spectral having Antimatter makes sense in a way, if ghosts aren't made of real matter then they're probably their own weird thing Ohhhh, yeah! Our ghosts are weird. Our monsters are weird. Our flower dragons are-- *gets eaten* … hungry. T_T And curiosity will bring about a better RP, I'd say. :3 * gets eaten by a meteor shark * Okay I think meteors should fall under Spatial too T_T uwu I am glad my inane questions are helping. Meteor should probably be under Celestial, no? Since meteors are also celestial bodies. Celestial Spatial meteors~! XP Also, "æther" is exactly five characters (the combined "ae" being one character). So now no 5 th Elementals can complain about the number of characters Ahahaha :3 *proceeds to never touch 5th elementals ever again* * hires a 5 th Elemental to poke you * But seriously though, should the name remain, or should we think of a new suitable name for them?
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Post by After on Feb 12, 2022 11:50:44 GMT -2
Alright. If you click on "Quote", you get redirected to a page with the full post editor thing, and at the bottom of the text box where the quote appears in, there's a "Preview" and a "BBCode". I'm using the latter here; makes it much easier for me to split quotes. :3 Oh it somehow never occurred to me to use the BBCode editor. Completely forgot it exist lol. Good question, that. Right now, I'm thinking "Flow" (as in, "alter the flow of the life, the energy, and the mana within a person"), but that's up for discussion. Flow is such a good name woah. Reminds me of the obscure elemental system I posted about a while back. Sounds great to me! … that's brilliant. Transforming into beasts will fall under Summon, then. Summoning the beast within! :3 Celestial Spatial meteors~! XP Combo elemental attacks? :0 * hires a 5 th Elemental to poke you * But seriously though, should the name remain, or should we think of a new suitable name for them? I think Aether (I am too lazy to type the combined Ae) is a fine name, though if you are talking about the race, then I think we could probably come up with something a little more concrete. Perhaps Voidlings? Etherians? Ethers?
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 12, 2022 12:07:57 GMT -2
I'm thinking, attacks can inflict multiple elements of damage, under certain conditions. Also I like Etherians. Reminds me of Terraria's Etheria event.
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Post by After on Feb 12, 2022 12:10:51 GMT -2
Etherians it is then Now, what if we had Terrarians?
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 12, 2022 12:12:06 GMT -2
Stone golems!
Wait what
Hm, maybe I should add golem as a race, but they would be tricky. Iron golems, diamond golems, mud golems, and whatnot…
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Post by After on Feb 12, 2022 12:50:22 GMT -2
Personally I think of Golems as being constructed people, but if you want to have non-constructed Earth people called Terrarians who have moss for hair and rocky features, that would be pretty cool too
Of course, all of this is suggestions, don't have to take any of it ahaha
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 18, 2022 20:39:27 GMT -2
And glass golems, and sapphire golems, and wax golems, and paper golems, and wooden golems and… Anyway, so far we've got six elements officially confirmed for this RP. More than that, well, is still up for discussion. Also we probably need like gemstones corresponding to each particular element, in case these golems are gonna be like the ones from NetHack and variants, complete with breath weapon. (Like these goons.) Of course, how anything can breathe lightning is beyond the normal realm of physics, because physics are way different in the other multiverses of Xyrinfe.
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Post by After on Feb 19, 2022 8:08:02 GMT -2
6 elements confirmed owo
Given the cool, mystical nature of Flow and Ether, will the classical four elements also have some of that same pizazz?
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 19, 2022 11:31:12 GMT -2
Who knows? ;P
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Post by After on Feb 20, 2022 3:08:34 GMT -2
I'm still in favour of having sub-elements be a thing, like I mentioned on Xyrinfe a long while back. Gem, crystal, metal, etc all getting lumped under Earth as sub-elements, Ice can be under Water, so on and so forth.
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Post by Cibryll on Feb 20, 2022 20:00:43 GMT -2
Finally got around to updating the Tome of the Elements a bit, haha. So far, some elements have two or three abilities, though I would really like it if there was like ten abilities per element (and none). I'm still in favour of having sub-elements be a thing, like I mentioned on Xyrinfe a long while back. Gem, crystal, metal, etc all getting lumped under Earth as sub-elements, Ice can be under Water, so on and so forth. Which is why we still get to discuss the elements. I mean. We only have like six confirmed elements right now. The others will require talking. Lots and lots of talking. … in fact, I'm gonna have to recheck each and every Tome to make sure things are properly sized there. I mean, the headings are a bit messy (some are huge, others not so much). I'm also thinking about merging the Elf races and having them with types like some of the other races.
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Post by After on Feb 21, 2022 0:52:29 GMT -2
I think having the Elves be one race with subtypes would work pretty good.
It might also be a lot easier to hit the 10 ability count if you included all the subtypes. Something something Earth something Crystal something something Reflectivity something something Illusion something something Dazzle Opponents something something.
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Post by After on Feb 21, 2022 10:15:22 GMT -2
one two ideas
Summon/Beast + Nature = Life
Ability for Flow: be able to rap anything and make it sound good
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Post by Cibryll on Apr 12, 2022 17:39:03 GMT -2
And now I kinda wanna add Radiation to the elemental mix. I don't think our cauldron can handle that, but we'll see. As long as we remain at 25 elements.
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Post by After on Apr 15, 2022 1:56:10 GMT -2
Radiation would be cool! It was one of the things I had under Space in continuity Omega but that was also because elements in Omega were extremely broad.
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